Rose, Edward Thomas | Day 3

Listed in 1881 Census as Tailor Master (1 man). Initially received a payment of £306 before the election and the balance a fortnight afterwards. Money was paid in gold at a rate of £50 a day.


Witness Type: Briber, Treater

Party: Liberal


Witness Testimony:

  • 3012.

    For Walmer ? — Yes.

  • 3013.

    You had volunteer canvassers, had you not ? — Yes, they volunteered their services.

  • 3014.

    hen I called them volunteer, I mean men who were not paid ? — No, not one.

  • 3015.

    You had no volunteer canvassers ? — No.

  • 3016.

    Were there no tradespeople or leading gentry to act as volunteer canvassers ? — No, no one took the slightest interest in it at Walmer.

  • 3017.

    You had 11 paid canvassers ? — Yes, 11 were paid ; they at these several amounts of money.

  • 3018.

    Did the 11 do anything ; did the whole 11 do anything ? — The whole 11 took districts, and each man took his own district.

  • 3019.

    It is a constituency of 300 odd ? — Yes.

  • 3020.

    How could you require 11 canvassers to canvas a place a mile long, with 300 electors ? — Those men could only undertake to do certain portions of the parish.

  • 3021.

    They were all voters, I presume ? — Yes.

  • 3022.

    All the canvassers were voters ? — Yes.

  • 3023.

    Was not this really a way of paying them for their votes ; was it not an employment to secure their votes ? — No, not a bit.

  • 3024.

    How could you want 11 canvassers to canvass a place one mile long, and principally consisting of one street ? — It is a much larger place than that ; it is nearly two miles from one end of the parish to the other. The canvassers can tell you better what they did with the money, because I do not know what they did with it.

  • 3025.

    They put it into their pockets, of course, but what I want to know is how could you have paid 11 canvassers to canvass a place of the size of Walmer, with only 300 electors ; it is a canvasser to every 25 electors. If you divide a mile and a half by 11, there would be a very small place for each of them to walk over and canvass ? — It is not only one straight street you see.

  • 3026.

    The main part of it lies pretty well together ; there is Upper Walmer, no doubt, but it is only a small district ? — Those men volunteered to take certain districts. I did not appoint them to any district.

  • 3027.

    They volunteered their services for the sake of being paid ? — I do not know whether they had any portion of this money for expenses.

  • 3028.

    What did you pay to each ? — Those are the amounts of money I gave to each of them.

  • 3029.

    Minter, 129L. ? — Yes.

  • 3030.

    In your account which you delivered of 306L. there is a sum of 71L. for assistants, messengers, canvassers, and boys ? — Yes, that is quite right

  • 3031.

    How much did you pay the canvassers for canvassing; was any price agreed ? — No, there was no price agreed at all.

  • 3032.

    Is there any charge for canvassers in this account of 306L. ? — No.

  • 3033.

    That does not include the canvassers ? — No.

  • 3034.

    What were the assistants ? — They assisted in painting the FLAGS, and various things.

  • 3035.

    How many of those people had you ? — I cannot tell you the number. The amount of money for assistants I paid to Henry Pearson.

  • 3036.

    Were the people who acted as assistants voters ? — Not all of them. I think they were mostly the sons of voters.

  • 3037.

    That was an employment of sons of voters ? — Yes.

  • 3038.

    How many messengers had you ? — Four regular messengers for eight days, and then we had messengers for odd days.

  • 3039.

    Did you have them for eight days ? — Yes.

  • 3040.

    How much did you pay them a day ? — 5s.

  • 3041.

    Were they voters ? — No, none of them.