Testimonies

Testimonies

• 1305.

  But what arrangement had you made before ? — I made no arrangement with him, with the exception that I saw his father, and asked him to go and get him, and said that I would satisfy him, or make it right with him, or something to that effect.

• 1306.

  You got his father to go and get him to vote, and you told his father you would make it right with him ? — Yes.

• 1307.

  Had you seen Port at all yourself before he voted ? — I do not think so.

• 1308.

  Then after he had voted you gave him this 4L ? — Yes, he came and found me, told me he had voted for us, and claimed 4L. He said the others were getting it, and he meant having it.

• 1309.

  When he said the others were getting it, do you know who he alluded to ? — The other side ; the Conservatives.

• 1310.

  You gave him 4L ? — Yes, I gave 4L.

• 1311.

  Can you tell us where he lived ? — I believe he worked on a farm at Monegham at the time. He was a householder in Deal, until he left to go to Monegham.

• 1312.

  Is he a freeman of Deal ? — No.

• 1313.

  What is he ? — He was a householder. He is one of the out voters.

• 1314.

  Now, with regard to R. H. Bright – what is he ? — I think he works along the river ; a jobbing man ; does anything.

• 1315.

  He is a jobbing man, who works along the river ? — Yes.

• 1316.

  Where does he live ? — Usher Street.

• 1317.

  Sandwich ? — Sandwich.

• 1318.

  What arrangement did you make with him ? — I met him on the polling day.

• 1319.

  Tell us shortly what took place between you ? — He said he would vote for the Liberals, but he must have 4L. ; he would vote for the Liberals if I gave him something. He came to me after the vote, and I gave him 4L.

• 1320.

  He said he would vote for the Liberals if you gave him 4L. ? — I do not know that the sum was stated ; but he said, “If you do something for me, I will go and vote for the Liberals.”

• 1321.

  And you told him you would ? — I told him I would.

• 1322.

  And for the vote you gave him 4L ? — Yes. He said the others had it, and he meant having it.

• 1323.

  You told me just now that Port told you the other side were getting paid ? — Yes.

• 1324.

  Do you know anybody who was distributing money on the other side ? — No ; only rumour.

• 1325.

  Who did you hear was distributing it ? — It might have been Lock or Hughes. Hughes, I think, was one of the names. I am not positive as to that. I did not ask him the name.

• 1326.

  Did you hear of anybody who was distributing money on the other side ? — Only that there was money being distributed. No one came to me and said, “Somebody has promised me so much.”

• 1327.

  Did you hear who it was being done by ? — No.

• 1328.

  You said Lock or Hughes ? — I heard those two names mentioned.

• 1329.

  As distributing money ? — Yes; but it was only rumour

• 1330.

  What Lock was that ? — He is a retired gentleman, I believe ; he has retired from business.

• 1331.

  Do you know his Christian name ? — I do not know his Christian name.

• 1332.

  Did you hear of any persons on the other side who had received money ? — No, only hearsay.

• 1333.

  Did you hear the names of any one ? — No, nothing positive ; nothing definite.

• 1334.

  Who were you told had received money on the other side ? — Only those who voted that way, I suppose.