Testimonies

Testimonies

• 1245.

  So that you paid for refreshments to other houses besides the seven which you engaged at 4L. each ? — Yes.

• 1246.

  Have you had from these public-houses any further claims ? — Yes.

• 1247.

  Where are they, do you know ? — I have not got them now. I had bills. They gave them to me.

• 1248.

  What have you done with them ? — I believe Mr. Emmerson has them. (To Mr. Emmerson.) Are they the 89L ? (Mr. Emmerson.) Those are the 89L., the particulars of which I handed in yesterday.

• 1249.

  (Mr. Holl.) (To the Witness) All the further claims you handed over to Mr. Emmerson ? — Yes.

• 1250.

  Here is an item of 3L. for railway and other expenses to Mr. Feare, what was that for ? — He lived beyond Sevenoaks. I have not his address with me. It was simply to satisfy him for his expenses.

• 1251.

  He lived beyond Sevenoaks ? — He was a mason, and it was for loss of time.

• 1252.

  You gave him 3L. ? — Yes.

• 1253.

  When was it arranged that you would give him 3L. if he came to vote ? — I made no arrangement until I met him on the polling day, or the day before.

• 1254.

  Had you not communicated with him before ? — Yes, through his wife. His wife wrote to him.

• 1255.

  What did you tell her ? — I told her that his expenses would be paid providing he came.

• 1256.

  What else ? — Nothing more passed between his wife and myself.

• 1257.

  You told her that his expenses would be paid if he came ? — Yes.

• 1258.

  And afterwards you met him there and agreed to give him 3L ? — He claimed 3L. I was obliged to give it to him.

• 1259.

  It is a good deal more than his expenses, is it not. His fare there and back would not be more than 5s. ? — He was a mason and there was loss of time.

• 1260.

  You paid him the rest for loss of time ? — Yes.

• 1261.

  For coming over to vote ? — Yes.

• 1262.

  Had you told his wife you would do that ? — No, I said nothing about that.

• 1263.

  ou told her you would pay his expenses. Did you say you would pay him his expenses, and for his loss of time ? — No, that I would pay his expenses, simply those words.

• 1264.

  You paid him the 3L before he voted ? — No, not until after he had been.

• 1265.

  I thought you told us you met him at the polling booth ? — No, I said I met him after that day, after I met him he claimed his 3L.

• 1266.

  On the day before when you met him, did you not tell him what you would give him. He asked what he was to have then surely ? — He might have done, but I really cannot remember now.

• 1267.

  Did you tell him what you would give him ? — If he had asked me I should have done. I cannot say whether I remember.

• 1268.

  You cannot say whether you remember promising that you would give him 3L. or not ? -— No.

• 1269.

  You did not pay him until after he voted ? — I did not pay him until after he voted.

• 1270.

  Then there is H. Clark ? — I paid him after he voted.

• 1271.

  When did you arrange with him that you would pay him his expenses ? Where did he come from ? — He came from Sevenoaks.

• 1272.

  How did you communicate with him ? — I think one of the committee wrote to him. He came and found me after he had polled. I did not see Clark until he came to me after he polled.

• 1273.

  You say one of the committee wrote to him to come ? — Yes. I did not write.

• 1274.

  Did you communicate with him at all, directly or indirectly ? — No.