Ramell, William Henry | Day 5

Born 1831. Brother of John Pettet Ramell. Made flags and raised a concern over the legality of making them. Names a lot of people he paid. Received £25 but claimed to be nearly £20 out of pocket. [Check]

Witness Type: Briber

Party: Liberal

Witness Testimony:

  • 4764.

    What is the Christian name ? — John Curling I think it is, he lives at 54, West Street.

  • 4765.

    What is he ? — He is a pensioner. I must tell you that he had a wife and daughter, and they made them by the sewing machine.

  • 4766.

    You put it down to the daughter ? — Did I put it down to the daughter ?

  • 4767.

    Yes ? — Well, it is no matter, it was well under- stood what it was for. I understand that.

  • 4768.

    (Mr. Jeune.) So did they, I suppose ? — Yes.

  • 4769.

    (Mr. Holl.) And it being understood you put it down to the daughter ? — Yes, I had my money’s worth.

  • 4770.

    Then I see there is Mr. Long ? — Yes.

  • 4771.

    What is his Christian name ? — John Long.

  • 4772.

    Where does he live ? — He resides in Wellington Bead, he is a lodger I think.

  • 4773.

    Then there is Bayly, what is his Christian name ? — I do not know.

  • 4774.

    What is he ? — He works at a milk walk.

  • 4775.

    Where does he live ? — No. 9, St. George’s Place.

  • 4776.

    Then Matthews ? — He lives at No. 11, St. George’s Place.

  • 4777.

    What is his Christian name ? — Thomas Matthews.

  • 4778.

    And Moult ? — He is one of my own men, he has not a vote.

  • 4779.

    He is not one of those you arranged with ? — No.

  • 4780.

    Was Clements ? — Clements was.

  • 4781.

    What is his Christian name ? — William Clements.

  • 4782.

    Where does he live ? — He lives in Chapel Lane, I do not know the number of his house.

  • 4783.

    Are there any others in this list that you made any arrangement with to employ them with a view to getting their votes ; just look at it (handing the list to the witness) ? — No, these are all women and girls.

  • 4784.

    The others are women and girls, are they ? — Yes, they came in, and I wanted hands, and I employed them.

  • 4785.

    Were any of the men to whom you paid 6L. 10s. for labour voters that you made this arrangement with ? —One man, I think, was a voter,

  • 4786.

    Who is he ? — His name is Buttress.

  • 4787.

    What is his Christian name ? — Peter, I think.

  • 4788.

    Do you know where he lives ? — No, I do not know where he lives ; I know he lives in Deal.

  • 4789.

    And you think his name is Peter Buttress ? — I will not be certain, either Peter or George.

  • 4790.

    Did you arrange with him about his vote ? — I did not arrange with him.

  • 4791.

    Does he live in Middle Street, Deal ? — I cannot say exactly ; it is somewhere in the north end of Deal ; I can find out for you.

  • 4792.

    Do so, and let us know ? — Yes ; whether he has not gone to an asylum now I do not know, or whether he is back again I do not know. He takes on so about the election, that our party should lose. +++

  • 4793.

    Did you arrange with him for his vote ? — No, nothing whatever. He came in, and I said, ” Peter, here, you can do this.”