Gillow, Richard | Day 11
No indemnity against prosecution. Testified that he received no money at all and used his own. One of three people the Commissioners named in their report who expended their own money in bribery for the Liberals. Have shown here that he spent £80 but unclear whether he was reimbursed. He said he expected to be. Gave £60 to Joseph Nowers who gave £5 to 11 men and kept £5 for himself. Initially denied giving out any more but two people subsequently testified and he was recalled to explain.
Witness Type: Briber, No Indemnity, Treater
Party: Liberal
Other Days The Witness Was Called On: Day 14
Witness Testimony:
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(Mr. Holl.) What are you ? — A brewer.
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Of Sandwich ? — Yes.
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Have you received any money in connexion with this election ? — No, none at all.
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From nobody ? — No one.
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Have you paid any away to anyone ? — Yes, very much so.
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Have you written down the names and addresses to whom you have given it ? — No.
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Could you do that ? — Yes.
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How much have you paid away altogether ? — I do not know.
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About how much, 100L. ? — No, not so much as that.
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50L. or 60L. ? — Yes, I should think so, and over that.
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Was that to persons for their votes ? — No.
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Not any of it ? — It was for their votes, but it was not to any persons.
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Who did you pay it to ; what have you done with it ? — I paid 60L. to one man.
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Who was that ? — Shall I write it down.
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Yes ? — That is the name (handing a paper) ; I can say it out if it is desired.
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What is the name ? — Mr. Nowers.
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What was he to do with it ? — To get some votes.
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You say you gave him 60L. ? — Yes.
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It was to distribute for the purpose of getting votes ? — Yes, that is it.
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Was anything arranged as to how much was to be given to each person, or was it left to his discretion ? — He did not know exactly how many he had got, whether it was a dozen, 13, or 14.
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He said he had got a certain number ; it might have been 20, I suppose ? — You see I do not know what he did with it.
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He come and told you that he had got a certain number of persons, and asked you to give him money to give to them, and distribute amongst them ? — I asked him if he had got a dozen that he could depend upon, and he said he had.
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And you gave him this money to distribute amongst them, and make them sure ? — Yes, that is it.
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What he did with it you do not know ? — No.
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Has he given you any list since of the names ? — No.
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Did he tell you the names of any of them ? — Yes, he told me some of them, but I did not go into them. I did not ask him for any.
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Is he at Sandwich now ? — I expect so ; I daresay he is.
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Have you seen him this last day or two ? — No I have not seen him for a long time.
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Have you any reason at all to suppose that he has left Sandwich ? — No, I believe he is in Sandwich.
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He could, I suppose, give us the list of names of persons he distributed it amongst ? — Yes, I should think so.