Lownds, Robert Ramell | Day 9

Received £14 which he distributed among 4 people – 3 at £3 and 1 at £5.

Witness Type: Briber

Party: Liberal

Witness Testimony:

  • 11570.

    (Mr. Holl.) Where do you live ? — No. 9, Robert Street.

  • 11571.

    What are you ? — A tailor.

  • 11572.

    How much did you receive ? — 14L.

  • 11573.

    Who was that from ? — Mr. Cornwell.

  • 11574.

    What were you to do with that ? — To pay it to voters.

  • 11575.

    Was it given to you for that purpose by Mr. Cornwell ? — Mr. Cornwell gave me the money, but did not ask any questions. Mr. Edwards told me to go to Mr. Cornwell for the money.

  • 11576.

    Did you ask Mr. Cornwell for the money ? — He knew what I came for, and handed over the money without asking any questions.

  • 11577.

    Did you say nothing ? — No ; merely that I had come for the money.

  • 11578.

    What money ? —That I had come from Mr. Edwards.

  • 11579.

    For some money ? — Yes.

  • 11580.

    Did you say how much ? — No ; he knew how much.

  • 11581.

    Did you tell him what it was for ? — No.

  • 11582.

    However, you got 14L. from Mr. Cornwell ? — Yes.

  • 11583.

    Did he tell you what to do with it ? — No.

  • 11584.

    Did anything take place between you, except your telling him that you had come for the money, and his giving you the 14L. ? — No.

  • 11585.

    Nothing at all ? —No.

  • 11586.

    What did you do with it ? — Gave it to four voters, according to this list (handing a paper).

  • 11587.

    I see one had 5L. and the other three 3L. each ? —Yes.

  • 11588.

    Did you attend to the board boys ? — Yes.

  • 11589.

    Did you distribute any of this money amongst any board boys ? — No, Mr. Cornwell paid the board boys ; I had nothing to do with that ; paying them.

  • 11590.

    It is not correct, if it has been stated, that your account for 14L. was to pay the board boys ? — No, I had nothing to do with paying them.

  • 11591.

    You did, I understand, look after the board boys ? — Yes.

  • 11592.

    But you say you did not pay them ? — No, Mr. Cornwell paid them himself.

  • 11593.

    (Mr. Jeune.) When you went to Mr. Cornwell, how did you know what sum to ask for ? — I told Mr. Edwards what I wanted.

  • 11594.

    You told Mr. Edwards that you wanted 14L. ? —Yes.

  • 11595.

    Did you tell him what it was for ? — Yes.

  • 11596.

    You told him it was for voters ? — Yes.

  • 11597.

    14L. was the amount you mentioned to Mr. Edwards ? — Yes.

  • 11598.

    And Mr. Edwards told you to get l4L. from Mr. Cornwell ? — Yes.

  • 11599.

    And you went to Mr. Cornwell and said you wanted the money ? — When I went to Mr. Cornwell, Mr. Edwards had seen him.