Gibbons, Richard | Day 7

Some money retained for flagpoles & boards requested by WH Ramell. 100 small flagpoles cost 1s 4d each. 24 small boards cost 4s each and large ones £2 10s.

Witness Type: Briber

Party: Liberal

Witness Testimony:

  • 6521.

    (Mr. Holl.) What are you ? — A builder. 

  • 6522.

    Where do you live ? — No. 8, New Street. 

  • 6523.

    Did you receive any money in connection with the election ? — Yes. 

  • 6524.

    How much ? — 36L. and 5L.

  • 6525.

    What was the 5L. for ? — I received the 5L. first to pay for one of the COMMITTEE ROOMS, which I did not use. 

  • 6526.

    Did you pay for the COMMITTEE ROOM ? — No, there is a balance yet.

  • 6527.

    What did you do with that ? — Retained it. 

  • 6528.

    Have you got it now ? — Yes, there was a balance in hand. I had a bill against them. 

  • 6529.

    Did you receive any other money besides that 5L. ? — No more besides the 5L. and the 36L. 

  • 6530.

    Have you paid any of it away ? — Yes — here is a list of the names of all those that had it  — 29L. I paid away, and there was a balance of 5L. 

  • 6531.

    You paid eight persons 3L. each, whose names and addresses you have given ?  — Yes. 

  • 6532.

    One 4L. and one 1L. ? — Yes. 

  • 6533.

    Were those sums paid to them for their votes ? — No, one of the name of Clayson was for the hire of his room — Mr. Outwin wished me to pay it. 

  • 6534.

    Were the others, paid for their votes ? — Yes. 

  • 6535.

    All the others except Clayson ? — Yes. 

  • 6536.

    Was it all paid before they voted  — was it paid on the Tuesday ? — Some before and some after. 

  • 6537.

    With regard to those that you paid after, had you promised that you would give them it ?  — Yes. 

  • 6538.

    And afterwards you paid them ? — Yes. 

  • 6539.

    With regard to Clayson, what was that for ? — That was for the hire of a room. 

  • 6540.

    Is he a publican ?  — No, a shoemaker. Mr. Outwin wished me to pay him. It was not for his vote, and I did not engage the room. 

  • 6541.

    Was that a room that had been hired ?  — Yes, Mr. Outwin hired it, and being near to me he asked me to pay him. 

  • 6542.

    (Mr. Turner.) Outwin gave you the money ? — Yes. 

  • 6543.

    How did you know that room had been hired ?  — Mr. Outwin told me he hired it, and asked me to pay for the room. 

  • 6544.

    Do you know whether that room was used ? — I do not. 

  • 6545.

    You gave him 3L. ? — Yes. 

  • 6546.

    Was that before he voted ? — No, I do not think, in fact, he had anything to do with it at all. I did not see Mr. Clayson at all, and he told me he had never received a penny in his life for a vote. 

  • 6547.

    To whom did you pay the 5L. — Mrs. Clayson. 

  • 6548.

    You saw Mrs. Clayson yourself, and gave her the money ?  — Yes.

  • 6549.

    What room was it ? — I did not hire the room. I had nothing to do with hiring any rooms. 

  • 6550.

    Has he any room except the shop where he carries on his business ?  — Yes, a very nice sitting-room.