Chittenden, James McCarthy | Day 6
Party: Liberal
Witness Testimony:
- 6331.
(Mr. Turner.) What are you ? — A carpenter.
- 6332.
Did you receive any money at this election ? — Yes.
- 6333.
How much ? — 27L.
- 6334.
From whom ? — From Mr. Outwin.
- 6335.
What did you do with it ? — I gave it to certain parties that were voters ; 3L. each, here is the list (handing a paper).
- 6336.
I see there were nine of them ? — Yes, there were nine, but four of them did not take the 3L.
- 6337.
There are five that you gave 3L. each for their votes ? — Yes.
- 6338.
Had they promised to vote for the Liberals ? — Yes.
- 6339.
If you would give them something ? — Yes.
- 6340.
Did you tell them at the time what you would give them ? — Yes.
- 6341.
Did you tell them you would give them 3L. a-piece if they would vote for the Liberals ? — They promised me.
- 6342.
When did you pay this money to them, before or after the election ? — Before the election.
- 6343.
Do you know whether they voted ? — I suppose they voted for the Liberals.
- 6344.
At all events you promised them 3L. if they would vote for the Liberals ? — Yes.
- 6345.
Then comes an item of sundry expenses and time, 12L. ? — I had the promise of nine votes, and four of them would not take the money, and 12L. I charge for my time and expense.
- 6346.
As they did not take it you did ? — Yes ; I expended this money.
- 6347.
Did you expend the 12L. ? — I had some of it myself, but I was at great expense going about to different places.
- 6348.
So if they had all taken the 3L. you would have had nothing at all ? — Not a half -penny.
- 6349.
It was not given for you to keep yourself ? — No.
- 6350.
It was given to you to give to these men ? — They would not take it. I believe they were offered more money upon the other side.
- 6351.
Have they told you so ? — No, they did not say so, but I judged so.
- 6352.
Can you give me the names of those four ? — I could get you the names, but I have not got them with me now. I left it to one man, John Beany, to get these four.
- 6353.
How did you make up the 12L. with regard to your own expenses ? — Going about at different times. I spent it in different ways, giving refreshments at different times.
- 6354.
Giving who refreshments ? — Several parties, and looking at them.
- 6355.
You were not a canvasser ? — I was a canvasser for over a week.
- 6356.
(Mr. Jeune.) You gave yourself refreshments sometimes ? — Sometimes I might have a trifle, but it is not much refreshment I take.
- 6357.
(Mr. Turner.) In how many days did you spend this 12L. ? — I began about the third day after Mr. Crompton Roberts appeared upon the scene.
- 6358.
From then up to the date of the election ? — Yes. I was in the midst of four PUBLIC-HOUSES, and I was surrounded with Tory FLAGS, and being a Liberal I thought I could do a little myself, because I was chaffed every time I went out. I thou^t I would do a little as well as they did, and I thought I was doing right.
- 6359.
What was the little you thought you would do ? — I thought I would try and do as much for Sir Julian as I could.
- 6360.
So you kept the 12L. ? — Yes,