Rose, Edward Thomas | Day 3

Listed in 1881 Census as Tailor Master (1 man). Initially received a payment of £306 before the election and the balance a fortnight afterwards. Money was paid in gold at a rate of £50 a day.


Witness Type: Briber, Treater

Party: Liberal


Witness Testimony:

  • 2832.

    (Mr. Turner.) What are you ? — A tailor and DRAPER.

  • 2833.

    In Deal ? — At Walmer.

  • 2834.

    An account was handed in on the petition which was tried before the judges, which shows an amount of 306L. expended by you on the election ? — Yes.

  • 2835.

    That is correct ? — Yes, that is correct.

  • 2836.

    Did you spend all the money yourself ? — Yes, and people acting with me. I have their names here if you wish to know them, and the different items in that book.

  • 2837.

    We will go into the items directly, but did you give those people the money to spend which you did not spend yourself ? — Yes.

  • 2838.

    Who did you receive the money from ? — Mr. Edwards.

  • 2839.

    When ? — At different times during the week. 50L. a day, generally.

  • 2840.

    For a week up to the election ? — From the beginning up to the day of the election.

  • 2841.

    Besides that 306L. which you say you received from Mr. Edwards, did you receive any other sum from him ? — Yes ; altogether 640L.

  • 2842.

    Can you give me the dates of the receipt by you of the different sums from Mr. Edwards ? — The first, 306L. 6s. 8d. I received up to the day of election.

  • 2843.

    But you received that by instalments ? — Yes.

  • 2844.

    Can you give me the dates on which you received it ? — No, I cannot give you the dates, but it was during the week this 306L., in fact there was a little over, which was balanced by an after payment Mr. Edwards used generally to bring 50L. at a time.

  • 2845.

    Day by day ? — Day by day.

  • 2846.

    Did you receive the 306L. in sums of 50L. day by day ? — Six days before the election.

  • 2847.

    50L. a day ? — About 50L. a day.

  • 2848.

    When did you receive the balance of the 640L. ? — About a fortnight after the election, from Mr. Edwards.

  • 2849.

    As you received the 50L. day by day, did you spend it day by day ? — I spent it day by day, as you will see marked on that list.

  • 2850.

    How did you receive the money ? — In gold.

  • 2851.

    All of it ? — All of it.

  • 2852.

    Even that after the election ? — Yes, all in gold.

  • 2853.

    (Mr. Holl.) Can you give the different items and the amounts you received ? — After the election ?

  • 2854.

    No, from the beginning to the end ? — I cannot give the items for every day, but I had some every day.

  • 2855.

    (Mr. Turner.) Did you have the whole 50L. a day in gold ? — Yes.

  • 2856.

    Who brought it to you ? — Mr. Edwards.

  • 2857.

    He brought it himself ? — Yes.

  • 2858.

    To Walmer where you live ? — Yes.

  • 2859.

    Then this account which was used at the trial, correctly represents the payments which you made to make that 306L. 6s. 8d. ? — Yes.

  • 2860.

    Have you receipts for the payments which you made ? — No, I have not, except one or two for COMMITTEE ROOMS, or out-voters travelling expenses. I have no receipts for the little items you see in that account.

  • 2861.

    Some of them are large items. For instance, I see there is altogether a sum of 65L. 19s. for POLES ? — Yes.